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[Mawa [NOR]]

Alright, I am going for that one then

But what should I choose?
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo E6600-prosessor (2,4 GHz, 1066 MHz, 4 MB buffer)
Intel® Viiv™ Core™ 2 Duo E6600-prosessor (2,4 GHz, 1066 MHz, 4 MB buffer)

There is no price difference. The only difference is that "Viiv".

[UberHaven]

Viiv is basically just a multimedia booster. You will probably NOT see any difference in the two but if the price is the same I don't see why not.
Very similar to AMD's 3D Now! Technology that is seen on almost all AMD's since the later 754's and all of 939/940 chips.

[Wasabi®]

Get a single 8800 series maybe?

[Snake]

http://www.buyxg.com...onfigurator_top

CASE: Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer 420W Case with Side Window
CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlon™64 X2 5600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)MSI K9N4 SLI-F nForce 500 SLI Chipset DDR2/800 SATA-II RAID MBoard w/ Dual 16x PCI-Express
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 256MB 16X PCI Express
VIDEO CARD 2: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 256MB 16X PCI Express
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: Sony Q170A 18x Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: SONY 16X DVD-ROM (BLACK COLOR)
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Price: $899.00

[AnonymousFlash]

http://www.buyxg.com...onfigurator_top

CASE: Antec Nine Hundred Ultimate Gamer 420W Case with Side Window
CPU: (Socket AM2) AMD Athlon™64 X2 5600+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
MOTHERBOARD: (Socket AM2)MSI K9N4 SLI-F nForce 500 SLI Chipset DDR2/800 SATA-II RAID MBoard w/ Dual 16x PCI-Express
MEMORY: (Req.DDR2 MainBoard)1GB (2x512MB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Value Select or Major Brand)
VIDEO CARD: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 256MB 16X PCI Express
VIDEO CARD 2: NEW!!! NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT 256MB 16X PCI Express
LCD Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
Optical Drive: Sony Q170A 18x Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: SONY 16X DVD-ROM (BLACK COLOR)
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
Price: $899.00

My thoughts on that one:
Case: Good
CPU: E6600 is better IMO
Motherboard: Fine if going AMD
Memory: 2 gigs is the standard today
Video Cards: 8500 series is equivalent to the 7600gs as far as performance...even in SLI one 8800 would be 5x better...even one 8600gts would perform very similarly
Hard Drive: fine
Optical drives: fine
Oh and what about a power supply?...420w might not cut it for that if you are using the case one.

[Stormy{CAN}]

Don't forget one rather small but very important point, it is highly doubtful that that place ships to Norway.

8500 series is equivalent to the 7600gs as far as performance

If you're lucky.

[UberHaven]

8500 = Multimedia PC/TV Card, not a gaming card. Even with two your getting like half the PP's and core clocks south of a single 7600gt

[Wasabi®]

Remember guys Mawa is in Norway so there might be companies in the US that won't ship internationally

[pest control]

Mawa, Mawa.

How about you invest in the best available computer:

Macintosh


Seriously, now with the intel chip, I can do primarily anything Windows does and still keep the superior Macintosh OSX for non gaming related things. And the in game performance (granted you buy the desktop or the tower) is very satisfying.

It is a bit pricey, but Apple has thrown in so much, it's actually a very good value.

The only downside would be having to buy your own copy of XP/Vista to run Boot Camp with.

you have to buy XP/Vista anyways, so thats not downside, but Mac's sux, you cant upgrade them and mod them, they are way too expensive.......when they made them with IBM CPUs they ruled, now, its same thing that you have in normal PC, overhere only old ladies that cant comprehend computers and have $ use them

Mawa, when it comes to gaming, the most important device is the video card. I have 2 years old AMD X2 4400 CPU, and it never loads more than 70% when Im playing BF2. its the video card that makes the difference. you will get better game performance from lower end intel + high end video card than the oposite. If you render alot and CPU speed is a problem, you can overclock it very easy. theres tons of articles on how to do it with intel. AMDs are not that good in OC compared to intel.
the other thing is you wanna get something that you can upgrade in future, AMD has memory controller included in CPU and with every new generation of CPUs will need new socket and you need to change the motherboard too, this is why its better to go with intel, you can put quadrocore CPU in 4 years old intel motherboard, AMD changed 3 socket types since then. when you change the motherboard, your making new computer, not upgrading.
in few weeks, the Q3 will kick in and intel will lower the prices, you will be able to upgrade to quadrocore for ~300$

[Wasabi®]

Macs are great and barely crash, but they are overpriced (for a reason, but still, expensive.) The only decently upgradeable Mac is the Mac Pro which starts at $2800 or so. And it has 8 Xeon CPU cores which you probably won't need. Any other Mac will quickly become obsolete as it is very difficult to upgrade them.

In the case that you're not interested in CPU-intensive apps like video, you will hardly notice any performance difference between a Core 2 Duo E4300 (1.8GHz, 2MB L2, 800MHZ FSB) and an E6700 (2.66GHz, 4MB L2, 1GHz FSB) but I would recommend getting a videocard that has

(Nvidia)
X600 GT or above, where X stands for 7 or 8. 7400, 8400, 7300, are no good for gaming. My recommendation would be the 7900 GTX, a good card below that would be 8600GT and above would be 7950GTX. However keep in mind that 7xxx series are not compatible with DirectX 10 so if you get one of those you should expect to upgrade when needed.

[Mawa [NOR]]

So a "SIMPLE 768 MB nVidia® GeForce® 8800 GTX" is not good enough? I have two choices; that one and this one: "256 MB nVidia™ GeForce® 8600GTS".

[UberHaven]

The 8800gtx is THE fastest consumer gaming card (other than the Ultra which is basically an OC'ed GTX)
An 8600gts shows horrible benchmarks but was the first DX10 card for midrange gaming.
If you get an 8600gts you will be able to play BF2 fine, around 60FPS steady. If you get an 8800gtx you can play BF2 with probably 120FPS AND have the abililty to play any game for a long time on max settings.
EDIT: By "Simple" they just mean direct from Nvidia, not a 3rd party card like my PNY 8800gtx.

[Mawa [NOR]]

Awesome, awesome! I´m ordering that baby when I get my next paycheck then. 7 days to go!

Thanks for the help everyone. I really appreciate it.

[AnonymousFlash]

Awesome, awesome! I´m ordering that baby when I get my next paycheck then. 7 days to go!

Thanks for the help everyone. I really appreciate it.

Dammit, your system will be better than mine.

Have fun with your rig...It will handle everything for quite some time.

[UberHaven]

Well his C2D will be better than my stupid Brisbane.

[AnonymousFlash]

Dang uberhaven, nice OC...x2 4800 to 3.4...wow.

[UberHaven]

Hehe, thanks. Only problem is the Brisbane Chips all come with a defective temperature probe so I could just be frying this thing, but two months of Over Clocking and I'm still running smoothly.

[Mawa [NOR]]

my 'puter just arrived at my door, and its awesome. Thank you, everyone!

[dodgem]

Are you sure it will run Battlefield 1942?

Mawa