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[USHA]

Just put in my new Nvidia GTX570. In BF3 I get 15 to 20 fps. The temp of the card does not go over 60 to 70, I like to run it closer to 60. Any clues as to how to get my fps up would be great.

Operating System
Windows Vista Home Premium (x64) Service Pack 2

Processor
2.20 gigahertz AMD Phenom 9500 Quad-Core
512 kilobyte primary memory cache
2048 kilobyte secondary memory cache
2048 kilobyte tertiary memory cache
64-bit ready
Multi-core (4 total)
Not hyper-threaded

Drives
1000.20 Gigabytes Usable Hard Drive Capacity
753.97 Gigabytes Hard Drive Free Space

Main Circuit Board
Board: Gateway RS780 Rev 1.0
Serial Number: U005083600262
Bus Clock: 200 megahertz
BIOS: American Megatrends Inc. 87IP011G 08/06/2008

Display

NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 [Display adapter

Core clock 732, Shader clock 1464 these two are linked. Memory clock 1900

Driver
Have tryed both the new 290 bata and the current 285, no differance.

Power Supply
650

[DerRaucher]

Thats your mobo > click me

Do you know if you have pci-e 1.1 or pci-e 2.0?
The chips of your mobo should spporting it.
But then your bios is from 2008. pci-e 2.0 found his way 2009.

15-20 fps on high or ultra?

BTW: The speed of a pc is reduced to the slowest component. Just upgrading one thing on a "old" machine wont makes it to a new pc.

[thee_oddball]

is the 4 pin power connection plunged in to the card?

even thought the new vid card shoould disable the onboard i would be a good idea to go into the bos and make sure it is set to PCIE and not pci

Edited by thee_oddball, 04 February 2012 - 12:25 PM.

[DerRaucher]

LOL, ddr3? Look at the manual of the board. it supports only ddr2. Yes, the card can run the game, but it looks like the mobo not.

PS: Yes it has one pci-e 2.0 slot



maybe is there a update for the bios that could help?

[spookyload]

I have the same card running on a Intel quad core and am getting 45-55 frames on high settings. What are the game settings for AA? Those are the ones that can kill frame rate. For it to be taking that big of a hit, something isn't set right though. I was getting 30 frames on low when I had my 8800GTS installed.

[Monkey]

Thats your mobo > click me

Do you know if you have pci-e 1.1 or pci-e 2.0?
The chips of your mobo should spporting it.
But then your bios is from 2008. pci-e 2.0 found his way 2009.

15-20 fps on high or ultra?

BTW: The speed of a pc is reduced to the slowest component. Just upgrading one thing on a "old" machine wont makes it to a new pc.

Check this first. If the card has to revert back to PCIe 1.1 it will run much slower than it should. There should be a bios update for this since the chips are there that should support the 2.0 spec.

The board is borderline on the right time for things. But Steve it is kind of an old one to be honest.

[dogofwar]

DerRaucher, he's running 15-20fps on low-medium settings. That card can run ultra at 55 frames steady. He has a quad core CPU with 8gb of ddr3 ram, there is no bottleneck to the system. I'm sure he has PCI-E 2.0.

i think the bottle neck is in the cpu, this is where i would start for sure. 2.2 is just not enough cpu power to run the game well. and the mobo dont have high end pci-e lanes.

[spookyload]

I am running my 570 on a PCI-e 1.1 and am getting the frames listed above. The PCI-e slot isn't causing him to lose almost 30 frames a second. Can you tell us what you are showing on the windows experience score? I know those numbers don't mean a whole lot, but it is a great place to start looking at what windows is seeing.

I know it sounds pretty stupid, but did you use a thrid pary software when you were doing to driver switches to clean up windows? There are lots of reports about poor frame rates from bad NVIDIA driver installations. Just using their remove tool doesn't always do the job anymore. Apps like driver cleaner do a much better job.

[DerRaucher]

Is the onboard graphic disabled?
pci-e 2.0 with 16 lanes are 16 lanes. doesnt matter how old it is. Sure, the bridges are little bit old but a look to wiki shows they didnt changed much with the new bridges.
CPU isnt more important for new games. They changed the job of the cpu years ago. Any 3d or picture calculation will go nearly direct to the gpu.
spooky, but you are going to upgrade your mobo to get 2.0 and using 100% the power of the gts570 and not only 50% ?

[spookyload]

Is the onboard graphic disabled?
pci-e 2.0 with 16 lanes are 16 lanes. doesnt matter how old it is. Sure, the bridges are little bit old but a look to wiki shows they didnt changed much with the new bridges.
CPU isnt more important for new games. They changed the job of the cpu years ago. Any 3d or picture calculation will go nearly direct to the gpu.
spooky, but you are going to upgrade your mobo to get 2.0 and using 100% the power of the gts570 and not only 50% ?

Yes. I just ordered a i7 2700K and ASUS P8Z68 DELUXE/GEN3. I had a taste of upgrade with the video card...now the pain of the big purchase!

[dogofwar]

I have the same card running on a Intel quad core and am getting 45-55 frames on high settings. What are the game settings for AA? Those are the ones that can kill frame rate. For it to be taking that big of a hit, something isn't set right though. I was getting 30 frames on low when I had my 8800GTS installed.

AA will be set at x0 by factory settings, im sure he hasent changed this value, and yes it demolishes FR.

[dogofwar]

im gonna start this with NEW RIG FOR USHA, i have (8 gigs of DDR3 ram corsair vengance 8-8-8-24) i will donate,
i will also donate a after market cpu cooler (THERMALTAKE V1, WICH IS VERY GOOD COOLER) and next month i will be selling my EVGA-P67-SLI mobo, i have to have money for this, but i will go cheap, $50.00 for USHA, only 4 months old, getting new Z68.

so come on guys lets get this started, he needs a higher end comp thats all there is to it, -the gpu

[USHA]

Cant thank all of you enough for the help. Some of it I understand some I dont LOL. From what Im seeing I need a new rig. I have been talking to my computer guy and he can build me on at a good price. Took this one in just before I got the new card. Asked him if he could use any of the parts, he said not many but a couple so it looks like Im going back to him to start a build.

[Wolf68k]

Personally I think the bottleneck is the whole system. The CPU, the RAM being DDR2 and even the fact that's is Vista. Vista itself has proven to be a performance robber when it comes to anything not just games.

[DerRaucher]

But it should be playable on low settings.