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[CA1]

I am begging the admin's to please keep the amazing pilots from ruining the different maps by plane whoring the entire time we are on that map (one pilot just now at 41 kills with a plane and it didn't allow us to move anything anywhere).  If you can't stop them, can you please add more aa guns or make the aa guns stronger so they don't blow up so easy.  Thanks

[Colonel Tavington]

Some heat-seeking surface to air missiles should solve the problem.

[CA1]

I would love that......give me the SAM site next to the barn.  

 

[Clarence]

Joysticking Lovecatt is doing this right now, as he always does. If there's one player ruining this game and driving people away it's him.

[FlameHaze]

Joysticking Lovecatt is doing this right now, as he always does. If there's one player ruining this game and driving people away it's him.

 

Now I appreciate that when teams aren't skill balanced, it sucks to get pummeled.  But you should suck it up, happens to everyone in every online team game, this thread has a whiff of "Karen" to it.

The issue as I understand it is that LoveCat is a good player who specializes in flying. And you want the Admins to do what exactly?

Ruin the game for those that like flying because you are bad at it / got stuck in an unbalanced match?

 

How is that any different than me saying this:

I'm horrible at infantry combat, we had a match and an amazing player with a tag "mustafa or something like that" had 80 kills, totally dominated in the match and on two occasions faced us 5 v 1 taking us all down.

Therefore you would want him to be forced to play as sniper 1/2 the time?  Or let's insert tanks to help deal with him? This argument is identical to yours and equally invalid attempting to gain an unfair advantage.

 

Skilled players like LoveCat also dislike when skills level of the teams isn't balanced teams, it's boring to just pick of random enemies leaving uncap.

When he and I play together we make sure we are on different teams as we enjoy battling each other.

Having said that I used to admin another server for about a decade.  What we used to do on occasion is politely ask one of the top players on the other team to switch sides and help, and usually they would. 

Obviously I can't say that Admins will be okay with this, but if they are give that a shot, but remember it's not always possible to switch teams on MoonGamers.

[FlameHaze]

BTW 40 kills in a match is pretty common, here's a recent Screenshot from Bocage with 5 people over 40 kills.

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[FriendlyNoob]

Politics and game patches have favored plane whoring for a long time. No mining planes, no zooking on take off, no stealing even if they land outside the base, etc. Additionally a patch lowered damage to planes.

Tactics to counter planes:
1. All guns even pistol hurt planes. Shoot ahead of whatever direction they are ahead. If they are going down you have to aim below. If they are going up aim higher.Let them close the distance between your sights and when the sights indicate a hit maintain that distance. The farther away the more you will need to lead them. All bullets have travel time. It's easiest to hit them when they are climbing.

2. Don't sit in AA unless it just spawned. They pilots can see when it's occupied and cloud bomb you. AA can't air straight up.

3. Machine gun on apc is good.

4. Zoom and you can see planes before they see you.

5. AA aim way ahead unless close AA rounds have a long travel time.

6. For b17 I'm not sure if indirect AA hits hurt it or not.

[FriendlyNoob]

Most of all when you shoot down a pilot and he bails hunt that guy down. Rarely is a great pilot as great at infantry.

For example twilight was probably the best pilot this game ever saw. But outside his tin flying machine you could get him easily.

[Colonel Tavington]

Excellent suggestions, yes if you're on the ground and have the opportunity, let go at the enemy planes with whatever you have when you see them.  Even if you don't shoot them down, the more damage they take the more they will be careful and will have to waste time and opportunities (of bombing and strafing your tanks, vehicles and infantry) by having to be careful or be easily shot down.

 

The good news is that some players are already "aa specialists" and you have to be very careful in flying in their area and even in attacking them, and some players are also being very creative in the use of the apc as a mobile anti-aircraft weapon and "hiding" it.

 

More sniping into the enemy af is also an option to pick them off while heading for the plane.

 

From flying the B-17 I think it does take indirect damage, but the beast (bless its heart) can take a lot of abuse, so it may not seem like its taking damage.

[FlameHaze]

Most of all when you shoot down a pilot and he bails hunt that guy down. Rarely is a great pilot as great at infantry.

For example twilight was probably the best pilot this game ever saw. But outside his tin flying machine you could get him easily.

 

The best pilot I remember was Jagzed, he was a commercial airline captain and an ex-fighter pilot. He wrecked me for years and I just couldn't do anything about it.

 

You are absolutely right that pilots don't make great infantry, but let's imagine this hypothetical person you describe that dual skilled.

Would you consider him a pilot who's great at infantry or infantry that's great at flying?  People tend to play what they are good at, especially in a game with classes where you determine your style of play pre-spawn.

Not easy to use a vehicle without repair tool as assault, equally difficult to fight with a bolt action rifle against a machine gun.

[Herbie the Love Bug]

What if a plane’s hit points were altered so they are as tough as a French tank?

[CA1]

I love most of the suggestions to help even out this game.  Is it possible for Moonie to program it so when a pilot reaches 25 kills he/she can not get into another plane until the map is over?  This would make it much more fair and enjoyable and would make it so I don't have to interact with Admin's which I am sure they would love.  Win Win for everyone. 

By the way...the best pilot hands down was Alacard.  Just saying.  

[Wasabi®]

The '25 plane kills' rule is at admin discretion. If an admin thinks the team with the pilot needs the pilot to prevent a steamroll, they have the ability to let the pilot keep flying. Alternatively, an admin may allow a pilot to switch to the other team if they are losing badly.

[mistamontiel]

Man I can't find Alacard on YT now!